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Are you all prepared for an EMP attack
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Phi
2017-08-12 11:57:33 UTC
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Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will need to
keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down then chaos
will reign.

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibility-2017-7
A. non Eyemouse
2017-08-12 11:37:32 UTC
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Post by Phi
Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will need
to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down then
chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibility-2017-7
It'll be strong in Ealing.
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Jeefaw K. Effkay
2017-08-12 12:39:31 UTC
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I'm looking forward to the new series of M*A*S*H
Catweazel
2017-08-12 14:14:51 UTC
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Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will need
to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down then
chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibility-2017-7
There'll be much more important things to be concerned about;
no leccy supply = no lighting, no gas, no water, no sewage pumping.
Concern over the fastest fuses on three legs will be a long way down the
priorities list.
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Brian Howie
2017-08-12 18:50:26 UTC
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Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will
need to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down
then chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibil
ity-2017-7
The link doesn't like my ad blocker.

Here's one that's less fussy :-

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article59586.html

Brian
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Spike
2017-08-13 07:52:37 UTC
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Post by Phi
Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will
need to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are
down then chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibil
ity-2017-7
The link doesn't like my ad blocker.
Here's one that's less fussy :-
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article59586.html
There has long been a saying that in an economic - and presumably
societal - breakdown, there are two metals that are best to own: gold
and tin. Gold, because you can use it to trade for weapons, food,
whatever; and tin, because it holds your food supply in the form of
tinned goods (which you can also use to trade).

The North Korean weapon need not be specially configured for EMP in
order to produce devastating effects. The Soviet K-3 test of 1962 used a
300kt weapon designed for other reasons than EMP production, yet when it
detonated at 290 km over Dzhezkazgan and somewhat short of its target,
the EMP effects were considerable: Karaganda power station burned down,
telephone lines burned out, radars a 1000km away were destroyed.
Interestingly, following this, the Soviet manned space programme
suffered a six-month delay possibly due to the wait for replacement
equipment for the kit that had malfunctioned as a result of the K-3 test
- although this was never made public.

Anyone in Aqmola/Astana who was walking to work that day and facing
South would have seen a second sun soundlessly appear in the sky - the
Soviets didn't announce such tests in advance. I have a photo somewhere
of the K-3 plasmoid.
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Spike
2017-08-13 10:10:45 UTC
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Anyone in Aqmola/Astana who was walking to work that day and facing
South would have seen a second sun soundlessly appear in the sky - the
Soviets didn't announce such tests in advance. I have a photo somewhere
of the K-3 plasmoid.
By coincidence, a friend of a friend who is undertaking a motorcycle
trip round the world, recently passed through Astana. If he saw a second
sun in the sky, it was probably due to booze.
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Stephen Thomas Troll
2017-08-13 10:53:01 UTC
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Anyone in Aqmola/Astana who was walking to work that day and facing
South would have seen a second sun soundlessly appear in the sky - the
Soviets didn't announce such tests in advance. I have a photo somewhere
of the K-3 plasmoid.
By coincidence, a friend of a friend who is undertaking a motorcycle
trip round the world, recently passed through Astana. If he saw a second
sun in the sky, it was probably due to booze.
Burt, WOW, Burt! Burt, that is a coincidence, Burt. Burt, and adventure
biking,Burt. Burt, how very Now, Burt.


Thanks, Burt.
FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
2017-08-12 19:11:04 UTC
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Post by Phi
Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will need
to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down then
chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibility-2017-7
Looks like the web may be rather slow if they have to reinstate valve
servers.

Spares for Kias may be hard to come by.
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Jim GM4DHJ ...
2017-08-12 19:30:55 UTC
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Did I ever tell you the world is fecked? ......
Gareth's Downstairs Computer
2017-08-12 20:06:10 UTC
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Did I ever tell you the world is fecked? ......
Wherever you've been, Jim, welcome back!

With the habitually abusive being deleted on sight
of their headers, it's been a graveyard in this NG
in recent days :-(
Jim GM4DHJ ...
2017-08-13 09:58:16 UTC
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"Gareth's Downstairs Computer"
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Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
Did I ever tell you the world is fecked? ......
Wherever you've been, Jim, welcome back!
With the habitually abusive being deleted on sight
of their headers, it's been a graveyard in this NG
in recent days :-(
well it is post amateur radio as exemplified by the Port Seton junk sale on
Friday night...more sellers than buyers...sad.....
FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
2017-08-12 22:13:59 UTC
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Post by Phi
Gareth will probably have some valve equipment in his shed and will need
to keep batteries charged. If all the electronic services are down then
chaos will reign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-emp-attack-the-dark-possibility-2017-7
I'm not an expert, but this looks like a rather large exaggeration to me.
The EMP from a high altitude air burst would fry a lot of semiconductors,
possibly including the control gear for the power distribution network. I
don't think it would damage the grid transformers though, considering the
megawatts they continually handle, and I certainly don't believe it would
irreparably trash the whole of the US grid.
Any "reversal to the 18th century" would be a temporary measure since we
would still have the knowledge to rebuild the technology.
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Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
2017-08-13 08:32:59 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:13:59 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
Any "reversal to the 18th century" would be a temporary measure since we
would still have the knowledge to rebuild the technology.
Yes, but would we not have to rebuild the tech, to rebuild the tech,
to rebuild the tech etc ad nauseam.
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FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
2017-08-13 09:37:15 UTC
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:13:59 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
Any "reversal to the 18th century" would be a temporary measure since we
would still have the knowledge to rebuild the technology.
Yes, but would we not have to rebuild the tech, to rebuild the tech,
to rebuild the tech etc ad nauseam.
I remember "doom and gloom", end of the world predictions about the
Millennium. We're still here 17 years later and I've only ever seen one
Millennium bug.
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Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
2017-08-13 11:47:23 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:37:15 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
I remember "doom and gloom", end of the world predictions about the
Millennium. We're still here 17 years later and I've only ever seen one
Millennium bug.
<OT rant>
It hacked me off no end that it was "celebrated" a year too early and
the millennium bug was misnamed. I really must get out more but not
having worked for over 2 years due to ill health does give one too
much time on one's hands. Two more ops to go this year, bollocks. I
had a big falling out with the head nurse of the private ward I will
be on and I will be ready for her this time, the unprofessional troll.
</OT rant>

There, I feel better now.
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Gareth's Downstairs Computer
2017-08-13 12:06:42 UTC
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Two more ops to go this year, bollocks.
Testicular cancer?
Spike
2017-08-13 12:10:24 UTC
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Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
I remember "doom and gloom", end of the world predictions about the
Millennium. We're still here 17 years later and I've only ever seen one
Millennium bug.
<OT rant>
It hacked me off no end that it was "celebrated" a year too early and
the millennium bug was misnamed. I really must get out more but not
having worked for over 2 years due to ill health does give one too
much time on one's hands. Two more ops to go this year, bollocks. I
had a big falling out with the head nurse of the private ward I will
be on and I will be ready for her this time, the unprofessional troll.
</OT rant>
There, I feel better now.
Careful...according to a hint from a contact, the person who said this a
few days ago will be along shortly...

"ROTL, you seem to be in one of your tantrums, I wonder what has
triggered that? You are like a child thrashing around on the floor in a
supermarket queue".

It's not clear why he missed the floor - a rather hard thing to accomplish.
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Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
2017-08-13 20:21:41 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:10:24 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by Spike
ROTL, you seem to be in one of your tantrums, I wonder what has
triggered that?
Nothing in particular. Occasionally, I just like to release some
pressure.

Just to get back on topic, I bought some adhesive copper tape. It
actually seems to be used to stop slugs crawling into plant pots. I
bought it to make a Faraday cage to keep RF out of my router as a
diagnostic test. The adhesive is conductive - I got it from Amazon
IIRC. It should prove useful in the future.

Toodle pip!
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Gareth's Downstairs Computer
2017-08-13 20:38:38 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 13:10:24 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by Spike
ROTL, you seem to be in one of your tantrums, I wonder what has
triggered that?
Nothing in particular. Occasionally, I just like to release some
pressure.
Just to get back on topic, I bought some adhesive copper tape. It
actually seems to be used to stop slugs crawling into plant pots. I
bought it to make a Faraday cage to keep RF out of my router as a
diagnostic test. The adhesive is conductive - I got it from Amazon
IIRC. It should prove useful in the future.
Toodle pip!
Also sold by model railway emporia for use as power busbars
underneath the layout.
Jeff
2017-08-14 07:53:06 UTC
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Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
Just to get back on topic, I bought some adhesive copper tape. It
actually seems to be used to stop slugs crawling into plant pots. I
bought it to make a Faraday cage to keep RF out of my router as a
diagnostic test. The adhesive is conductive - I got it from Amazon
IIRC. It should prove useful in the future.
I think that you will be wasting your time unless you address the
problem of the cables attached to the router first. That is where the
most damaging EMP will come from; unless of course you intend to keep
your router unplugged!!

Jeff
Jim GM4DHJ ...
2017-08-14 12:50:48 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:37:15 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
I remember "doom and gloom", end of the world predictions about the
Millennium. We're still here 17 years later and I've only ever seen one
Millennium bug.
<OT rant>
It hacked me off no end that it was "celebrated" a year too early and
the millennium bug was misnamed. I really must get out more but not
having worked for over 2 years due to ill health does give one too
much time on one's hands. Two more ops to go this year, bollocks. I
had a big falling out with the head nurse of the private ward I will
be on and I will be ready for her this time, the unprofessional troll.
</OT rant>
There, I feel better now.
shocking

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
2017-08-13 12:26:39 UTC
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Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:13:59 +0100, just as I was about to take a
Post by FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
Any "reversal to the 18th century" would be a temporary measure since we
would still have the knowledge to rebuild the technology.
Yes, but would we not have to rebuild the tech, to rebuild the tech,
to rebuild the tech etc ad nauseam.
If that was so how did we get the technology in the first place?
Answer:- we developed it over, in historical terms, quite a short time.
(Consider the world in 1917 compared to today)
The development work has now all been done, provided there are paper records
available, so all that would be necessary is to rebuild it.
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Jeefaw K. Effkay
2017-08-13 15:20:19 UTC
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so all that would be necessary is to rebuild it.
That would lead to full employment and, in turn, to the demise of this NG :-)
Brian Reay
2017-08-13 15:44:07 UTC
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so all that would be necessary is to rebuild it.
That would lead to full employment and, in turn, to the demise of this NG :-)
There has never been a shortage of jobs for those who want it and have
the skills. Some simply avoid work and/or are unemployable.
FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
2017-08-13 18:13:14 UTC
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so all that would be necessary is to rebuild it.
That would lead to full employment and, in turn, to the demise of this NG
:-)
I'm willing to help repair the breweries.
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